Your Body is Different, Treat it That Way with Angelo Poli

Today’s guest is Angelo Poli (PO-lee), transformation specialist and founder of MetPro, the advanced methodology that analyzes an individual’s specific response to diet and activity, and adjusts based on their personal needs and goals. Through MetPro’s tactful and personalized approach to health, Angelo and his highly-respected team have the ability to strategically redirect each of their clients toward achieving their greatest results.

With a high-profile client list that includes Olympic Athletes, NFL MVPs, physique models, and business leaders, it’s no wonder that Angelo has become one of the most celebrated and desired body transformation experts in the world. Welcome to the show, Angelo! 

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Angelo Poli:

You know, and so here's where the issue really comes in. It's that we have this assumption of parody. You know, we all have two eyes, two arms, two legs. We think that, you know, we should all respond the same way to certain inputs. I'll give you a very practical example. Not that this is the only scenario where that whole body, body image and body type comes into play, but a very practical one that I see day in and day out. And I'm asked about Why is it? I can do everything right. And I lose 10 pounds. Whereas the next guy loses 50 pounds. Welcome

Narrator:

to men of abundance, the podcast for those looking to level up their lives, by hanging out with some of the greatest leaders and established professionals in our community, living a life of integrity honor, and the abundance mentality prepare to pay it forward with your host. Former army medic turned lifestyle entrepreneur, Wally Carmichael.

Wally Carmichael:

what's up. What's up. You amazing abundant leader. I am Walnut Carmichael, your founder and host of the men of abundance podcast. The pay it forward community, showing you how to live your life of abundance and family, faith, finances, and fitness on your way to having more. So why do I say that part? Why do I say that last part on your way to having more, this is very important to me and it should be to you too. Well, you do what you want to do, but the fact of the matter is this. Most people wait for whatever they're striving for that million dollar business, or they're striving for that best job, but they're waiting for the kids to get out of school or they're waiting and waiting, waiting, doing this, all this stuff and just working their butts off, or they're not waiting for anything. You're working hard. Nose to the grindstone working day in and day out six, seven days a week, 12 hour days, not taking any time to actually enjoy the journey and enjoy yourself along the way. Look, all the big guys when they all get to a billion dollars, not all of them, but many of them will tell you. As they get older, their advice is don't work so hard. Well, that's easy for them to say because they work hard. Their entire life didn't have a relationship with their family. Didn't have a relationship with their kids. If they had a spouse that didn't have much of a relationship, they probably had several spouses along the way. And now they're worth billions. And they're saying don't work so hard, but that's what they did to get to that point. Hey, listen, if that's you, if that's where you want to be, and that's the life you want to live along the way, knock yourself out. I'm not here to judge you, do you, but all I'm saying is if you want to truly live. And here's the other thing I want to point out, did you realize that only about 4% of all businesses that are ever created in the United States ever make it to the million dollar Mark? Now, I'm not saying to not strive for that. What I'm saying is that on your way to getting to that million dollar Mark, why not enjoy yourself? Why wait until you get to that point, enjoy yourself along the way. But listen, you have an obligation to other people, especially if you've brought children into this world, it's important for you to not be an absent parent. Many of you have your, you know, your wife or your husband, and you've got your kids at home, but you're not paying attention to your children. You're paying attention to your dreams, your goals, your desires, and not spending any time with those little people that you brought into this world. They are going to remember that. And in your time of need, they may just grow up to be just like you and be a little bit too busy when you need the most. Now. Listen, I get it like my wife and I have this conversation all the time and we always bring up, like, for instance, Serina Williams and Vanessa Venus Williams, the tennis players, their whole childhood, even into adulthood. All they did all day, every day is played tennis. But listen, that's what they obviously love to do. They're not just very good at it. They actually love doing that. That is they're going out to the club that is there, you know, hanging out with. Friends are what, and I'm sure they hang out with friends and stuff like that too. But my point is, they're busy doing that and you might truly enjoy your business or your career or whatever it is. But all I'm saying is if you brought little people into the world, be sure to give them at least as much attention as you give yourself and your hobbies and your career and your goals. So that's what I mean by living your life of abundance and family, faith, finances, and fitness on your way to having more. Now, I want to give you the opportunity to be abundant in your actions today, by paying it forward and sharing men of abundance with others, take a screenshot of your phone, posted onto social media, hashtag men of abundance. Make sure you tag me in it so that I can find it and check it out and comment. I'd greatly appreciate that. And what's more the person that finds that. The person that you share men of abundance with is going to greatly appreciate it as well. They will thank you for it. I know because I get emails and text messages and Facebook messages and LinkedIn messages. I get all kinds of messages from every which way of people telling me what they got out of a particular conversation and how it gave them a different perspective on life and their career and their business and their relationship with their family, as well as their health. So. Be sure to pay it forward, share men of abundance with others. Yeah, let's introduce our featured guests today. Our featured guest is transformational specialist and founder of MedPro, the advanced methodology that analyzes an individual's specific response to diet and activity and adjust based on their personal needs and goals through med pros, tactful and personalized approach to health. Angelo and his highly respected team have the ability to strategically redirect each of their clients toward achieving their greatest results with a high profile client list. That includes Olympic athletes, NFL, MVPs, physique models, and business leaders. It's no wonder that Angelo has become one of the most celebrated and desired body transformation experts in the world. Men of abundance. It is my pleasure to introduce you to Angelo poli Angelo. Welcome to men of abundance, man. How you doing?

Angelo Poli:

I'm hanging in today. Doing well. Excited to be talking to you all. Thanks for having

Wally Carmichael:

me. Yeah. Excellent. Same here, man. Interview valet introduced us. Was that right? All

Angelo Poli:

They're great vintage, really enjoying working with them,

Wally Carmichael:

Tom. And I've known Tom and Karen and the rest. So the team over there for quite some time, I can't say enough about those folks. Great, great people.

Angelo Poli:

Yeah. Besides the fact of their service that they offer through interview valet. It's really awesome. Yeah.

Wally Carmichael:

So where you at in the world?

Angelo Poli:

Northern California. You know, w what we do most people think we're kind of in either the Bay area or LA, but we're actually close to the Oregon border. And and I live in just a small town on the outskirts of a college community. And we love it. I've been here my whole life. I've traveled a bit, but always come back home. And and that's where we're recording from today.

Wally Carmichael:

Very cool. I dig it, man. It's funny because when people, when I tell people that I was originally born and raised in Arizona to like, Oh my God, it's so hot there. I'm like, Oh yeah, down in Phoenix. It is. But when you go up North, you know, up to the McGowan Ram, I mean, Even during the summertime, it doesn't get below 80 degrees or get above 80 degrees, you know, maybe pushing 90, but it's gorgeous up there and the weather is completely different. So I get what you're saying about with California. I've been to the hotspots, you know, LA San Francisco, Anaheim, all those kinds of places, but and then driving through California, it's just a beautiful state to, to hang out in. Yeah, absolutely so much to offer. Very cool. So I like to start out with an attitude of gratitude in it. What do you have to be grateful for today? I've got great people around me. Great family, great friends, great. A great team that I work with Dan and out doing what we do. And so I am always loved that fi I always try and find the things to be grateful for and to have gratitude in my life. So love that. And it's just extremely something to be grateful for when you have amazing people around you. That you can rely on and confide in and all that cool stuff. I mean, it's, it's just, that's part of the reason why I like doing and having these conversations, because I get to meet some of the most amazing people in the world that aren't out in the limelight. You won't find them in people magazine and stuff like that. Usually some of them might have some of them to, but I like talking to the people that, you know, just are making things happen in the world, you know?

Angelo Poli:

And just to that point, you know, the kind of unique that unique field that we're in at MedPro Creates an opportunity for additional collaboration within our teams. So there's a lot of, you know, shoulder to shoulder working with with the other experts that we have on our team. We do a lot of round Robin round table programming strategy for lifestyle, nutrition, fitness and it's, it's a blast. Yeah. It's fascinating to have that kind of team.

Wally Carmichael:

No, absolutely. And well, I would say that you're fortunate to be the type of man to recognize that like myself, I like to keep smarter people around me. Yeah. You know, to collaborate with, you know, the old saying, if you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room.

Angelo Poli:

You're not gonna learn anything.

Wally Carmichael:

Absolutely not. That's the point. Yeah. Yeah. And more importantly, you can't add additional. Massive amazing value to your customers and clients. Right. You know, if it's just you, if it's just me, I just, I just can't do it. That's why I'm so fortunate to have that. So here are men of abundance. We really like to get to know the man behind the abundance. We talked a little bit about your professional stuff, and we're going to get into that in just a minute as well, but how would you describe yourself, Angela?

Angelo Poli:

Put my pants on one leg at a time. And if I ever think I could do more than that, I got a wonderful wife to remind me. I've, I've just regular guy. That's fortunate to to be able to work with the people that I work with and teach in the areas that I'm really passionate about. And so I ended up getting it. I don't know if you want me to kind of get into the backstory, but I can give you the nickel tour really quick. I had a fairly severe injury. So I've been in the health and fitness industry as a personal trainer when I was 18 years. And I yeah, ended up having a fairly severe injury in my early twenties. And it brought me to a point where I couldn't hand people dumbbells anymore. I couldn't coach people on the floor anymore. So I. Had a tough decision to make, am I going to keep moving forward in this career, in this field that I'm passionate about? And if I was going to, I knew I had to transition into a different capacity. So I ended up just really focusing on the strategy and the kind of the science behind how people change their bodies, improve their health manage their weight, all the things that go into that. And that's what I started traveling and educating on and teaching on. And and pretty soon it evolved into metabolic profiling or MedPro for short, which is what what we're doing now. I'm fortunate to have recovered though. I walked with a cane for almost a decade, but now in the concurrent illusion of my thirties I'm. I'm at least healthy healthy, healthier than I was at that point in my life. Let me put it that way. And I'm fortunate to have an entire team. That's passionate about the science of transformation and that's what we, we live and we focus on each day with our clients.

Wally Carmichael:

That is an excellent story of an abundance mindset. Now, listen, guys, we have this conversation all the time about your identity and you can, I'll give a perfect example of somebody who like rides motorcross. And this is a guy I grew up with. He rode motocross as long as I've known him. And he was really good. I mean, I'm talking to type of guy that would write at these shows in Vegas. And he would, he just wrecked one too many times and he fractured his femur a couple of times broke other bones. And finally it was just enough is enough. The doctor basically said, dude, you're tearing your body up too bad. And he was good. It's just when you're pushing the envelope, it happens. Right. So instead of just giving up the sport altogether, He started doing one of two things, actually one, he wanted to coach more people with his skills, but also he got into photography and he started photographing and videoing these amazing athletes. You know, he stayed in the sport and he stayed close to the sport. But what happens most of the time is you, you just many guys just feel that that's their identity. And they completely lose themselves and think that they can never resonate with anything else other than that topic or that subject or that vocation. And it's so far from the truth. And this is a perfect example. My buddy, who did the motocross and Jew who stayed in the fitness industry, just in a different capacity. That is absolutely amazing.

Angelo Poli:

Thanks, Wally. I I've been fortunate. I've been very fortunate. We're still having fun.

Wally Carmichael:

So that's, and that's the important part, right? That's it and making a little bit of money too. I mean, you know, having fun, adding value and making money, what else could a man want in life? You know, there's no great family and friends around them.

Angelo Poli:

Good

Wally Carmichael:

point. It was none of, none of the prior three could come together unless you have the good family and friends, in my opinion. Anyway,

Angelo Poli:

I agree with that whole

Wally Carmichael:

heartedly goals, total fulfillment, who we're talking about here, guys. So what is this amazing MedPro doing for other people? Tell us some good news stories.

Angelo Poli:

So I have the best job in the world. I've been blessed to have a career for almost two decades now in the I say fitness industry, but more specific, we have a more particular niche and that's okay. Transformation. So people will, will hire us when they need specific step-by-step coaching with their nutrition, with their exercise, with their lifestyle strategy, with their time management, with accountability, all the things that go into success in transforming their body from point a to point B. And so our clients span the, the range of, you know, NFL superstars and pro athletes to, you know, the Hollywood scene where they're getting in shape for a specific role to grandparents and, you know and the retirement communities who would just want to feel their best, live their best life and have energy and health to play with the grandkids. So it's really interesting. We'll be on the phone with someone and one part of the world. And the next minute we're on the phone with someone and another. Totally totally different circumstance. And everybody, you know, basically our, our, the take home lesson from what we've learned professionally from all this is that everyone's body is unique and responds uniquely. And the key is to listen, to identify how the body's responding and then. Not everybody's unique in how we deal with stress and pressures and time management. So what are the best of strategies that have been proven that work for everyone that we can apply to your unique circumstance? So as an example, Some people some people have a lot of travel in their schedule. Some people are at home a lot. Those are two different scenarios that we have dealt with quite a bit. Few years back, I had a guy that literally was, was in a plane 29 days out of the month. So you have to really throw the playbook out. In that scenario. He, he was actually his, his work and his company was featured in the wall street journal. And as well as our work with him and we had little micro workouts that he would do in the hotel room. And we had strategies where here's exactly what he would order at Starbucks, because you could get one anywhere that you would anywhere he would go. And then we have people that, you know, have more of a nine to five situation or out the house more and need strategies for what to do at home. To eat. And so we dive into all of that with our clients and we track record and analyze everything. So we can really extrapolate what the best next step is for each person. And it's been really interesting. What we've learned is that most people understand the value of exercise, keeping their body healthy in that department, but there's a whole lot of confusion around nutrition and metabolism in particular. Why is it two people eating the same? Diet or, or nutrition plan can get two very different results. Well, we we've been able to track that and identify who's likely to have what results based on their analytics and, and that, that's what we've been spending our time doing it in that pro I know that was a lot, huh? Sorry. No,

Wally Carmichael:

but it's very fascinating. I love it. I spent quite a bit of time in the health and fitness while I was an army medic for 25 years. But you know, you generally think that. Medical personnel are healthy and it's not always true. Especially nurses. For some reason, doctors tend to stay pretty healthy, but most nurses not so much well, and a lot in there. Yeah. That's what I was going to say. And their defense, they have some crazy schedules, man. Yeah. For sure. But I was also in the health and fitness industry and I was studying it quite a bit because I had so many different types of clients and I would do modifications for various workouts and stuff like that. But this. The metabolism is a whole different level. So if somebody was to come in or connect with you, What's the first step. How are you going to figure out what their, what is going to be the best meal plan and the best exercise aside of their schedule and all that type of stuff, but more importantly, really the meal plan. Cause that's what really fascinates me most

Angelo Poli:

great question. So we are going to look at five different things and so I'll just give you a kind of a brief bullet on each. So the first our experts are going to really dive into your history, your. Body type, which is basically an expression of your genetics. Some people are familiar with the body types. Ectomorph, mesomorph endomorph other people. Just kind of know it as a little more generalized Apple shape, pear shape type type topic. But what we're really discussing is what is your genetic predisposition? What is your body type and your natural tendencies. And then from that, we're going to talk about goal setting. Now, after doing this for a couple decades, my, my version of goal setting is different than most people's version of goal setting. So if you call me, if you call me and we say, okay, we're going to do goal setting session. My objective is to figure out. What we're not going to focus on. That's what goal setting is for me, because I know what most people that come to us over the last 20 years, one, we want to lose a few pounds. We want to lean out. We want more energy. You want to perform better. We want to get faster. We want to be stronger. I know that's one now within that, what typically is the barrier? Why people have tried a little of this, tried a little of that, but are still frustrated with their results. Is that likely they have not applied enough specificity into one area too. Force the issue to really move the dial. So what that means is goal setting is about saying here's our primary objective. So based on that, we're going to reallocate our energy, our resources, our time to make sure that we move the dial on that specific item. It doesn't mean that we're going to ignore the others. What it means is that we have a clear hierarchy of priorities. We're going to check this off the list. Maintain it and move on to the next and the next and the next checking boxes. And that's how, when we're under a specific time limit, when we're, I have a specific goal and we need to get certain things accomplished, whether it comes to weight loss or body transformations or whatever, whatever goals somebody has, that's how we see to it, that the changes where we're aiming for take place. So that's the first item goal setting.

Wally Carmichael:

That is absolutely huge, man. I mean, there's so much to unpack there because it's exactly how I run my own business and marketing strategy business when I'm coaching or consulting with somebody we first go after and that's the sign of a brilliant coach and consultant is to tell, be able to tell the client. What not to do, what's a stop doing, it's not just about stop drinking Coke and all this other kind of stuff. It's more, it's much deeper than that, but I have a question for you cause you talked about the body types and this was a big pet peeve of mine. When I was first talking in consulting with people about getting into one of my programs when I was doing health and fitness programs. Is that, you know, you get the sense that the bottom line is this. I want to look like Cindy Crawford or I'm going to look like, you know but not all the sports Negro, maybe. So there's just alone when he was in Rocky horror, you know what I'm saying? And I would have this conversation. I'm like, I don't want to discourage you, but. Let's focus on being healthy and fit because honestly your body type is not those people. That's their full-time job. This is not your full-time job. And it has many other conversations I could have. But how do you adjust that? Because I know you get that.

Angelo Poli:

I want you to look like you, but the healthiest fittest version of that, now let me share the strategy to get there. You're going to love the healthiest fittest version of yourself. So everybody's genetics are different, you know, I want to be able to dunk a basketball, but yes, what. But that's never happening. You know, and so here's where the, she really comes in. It's that we have this assumption of parody, you know, we all have two eyes. Do you want us to do legs? We think that, you know, we should all respond the same way to certain inputs. I'll give you a very practical example. Not that this is the only scenario where that whole body, body image and body type comes into play, but a very practical one that I see day in and day out. And I'm asked about Why is it? I can do everything right. And I lose 10 pounds. Whereas the next guy loses 50 pounds. So here's, here's what I want someone to consider those two guys they're high school friends. They've both now in their late thirties, early forties, put on a few pounds. So let's say both of these guys weigh about 250 pounds. They both go on the same meal plan, the same diet, the same workout. One guy loses 15 pounds. The other loses 50. Why? Well, here's what you don't know about that. What you don't know about them is that when they were in high school, they were best friends. They hung out together, but w the guy who lost 50 pounds, he graduated high school weighing 160 pounds. The guy who lost 15 pounds weighed two 25, when he graduated high school. So though surface evaluation, we see two men, maybe they're the same height or roughly the same height, both weigh 250 pounds. And we go, well, they both have the same amount of weight to lose. They don't. One of them has a very small, slight build more of a teat build. One of them has a very stocky, broad build. So even though he may wait two 50, he's not as overweight for his skeletal structure. So you're going to get two very different responses. And what that results in is unnecessary frustration. When we think our body is supposed to look or feel. Or be a certain way? There is no should there's just, what is, what's your reality? What's your healthiest. And that's what our experts really help each person identify. And don't get me wrong. There's lots of times where the conversation goes. Another way. You know, I have Bobby over here going, Hey, I lost 20 pounds. I'm good. And we're like, no, Bobby, you got to lose another 50. We before. We're good. We got to get you. You healthy. Right. But in a lot of times, It's as you can imagine the other way around where people are beating themselves up, like, no, I need to be 20 pounds lighter. And where where's it going to come from? You're already lean. You're muscular, you're healthy. You're fit. Let's focus on your body composition, your athletic performance. And that's where having an expert that really has seen it, seen it all who lives in the trenches, working with people and understands body types and genetics. And exercise and nutrition impact on our physique on our physiology really makes a difference, which which then of course dovetails into The knee, actually, the third thing that we evaluate, but I want to go in order. So step two, I'll just be really brief lifestyle. So we always look at lifestyle. I already mentioned this, somebody who has a family who takes meals at home with, with the wife or the husband and kids or whatever, you know, your, your circumstances. Is going to have a different time management, different scenario than say the woman who is you know, traveling and takes most meals socially or on the go, or while she's doing business luncheons and dinners. So we need to know what those factors are. So we can, I think, put that topic to bed. That's the, that's the second thing that our coaches are going to talk to you about. The third thing relates to this whole topic of body type and understanding where each person is, and that is, are you a strategic person or a metabolic person? And here's what that means to us at MedPro. The first thing we need to do is identify okay. If your goal is weight loss. And I say, and I'm using that as a goal, lots of people come to us to help build muscle or improve health or whatever the, the scenario, but about 85% of people that reach out to us are doing so, because they've tried to lose weight, they've hit a plateau and they want to work with an expert to help them bust through. So if your goal is weight loss, we need to know, is the issue a strategic issue or is it a metabolic issue? So that's where we look at what you're doing. So for a lot of people, it's a strategic issue. And that means when you eat reasonably healthy, when you exercise and you're active, you lose weight. The challenge is how do you fit that into your super busy lifestyle? Because we're all so busy these days. So that's where the strategic coaching, the time management, every time I say, okay, we're going to do this, that, and the other people will say to me, Yep. I know exactly what I need to be doing Angelo. And then I say to them, I know that you know, what you need to do. My job is to help you execute faster. Because if doing those things are cumbersome and take hours out of your day, it's going to be impractical. You're not going to be able to sustain it. So I need to teach you all the tricks, all the strategies, all of the tips that are gonna enable you to, first of all, identify which of the things you should be doing or the most relevant and focus on those first have the biggest impact. And then how do we execute them on them in the absolute, most effective time managed way. And here's how we do it. That's the strategic category. Now, a very different conversation. Lot of people that call us up, Hey Angelo, I'm eating clean. I've been on this meal plan. I exercise regularly. What gives, you know, I'm so frustrated at why can't I seem to bust through this plateau part. You're not doing anything wrong. Your metabolism has simply done its job and acclimated to your environment. That means that something has to change. So for somebody who we identify as a metabolic client, now, our focus is identifying exactly what we're going to implement to speed your metabolism. A lot of people come to us after they've died, they've lost some weight and now they're struggling to maintain it, to sustain that because their metabolic rate has slowed in response to that. So in those cases, our strategy is very different. So that's where it's like kind of the, the absolute Opposite of what we do is a one size fit, all fits all. We have to really do a deeper dive to figure out what each person needs because for a lot of people is some people call us up and we tell them we're not going to lose weight for two weeks. We're going to rehab your metabolism. Granted, that's a very, very small percentage. Almost everyone we can at least get to lose some weight out of the gate. But we're conditioned to look at things wrong. So we're conditioned to view weight loss, kind of from a, the Hollywood version of it. You know, the, the TV show version of it, where you have a lot of these kinds of extreme weight loss, you know, entertainment out there. And that's not always the reality. So here the proper and healthy for that matter, right? Here's the problem you see, you see kind of these extreme weight loss. So you go, you have someone who needs to lose some weight. The way that it needs to be done is. You adjust your diet, you start exercising. You know, let's say someone has a hundred pounds to lose. Let's take 20, 30 pounds off, maybe a little more. And then stop. Pause. Let your body and metabolism recover. Reinvigorate your metabolic rate. Re-energize recuperate. Then you're going to push for the next stint. Take another 1520 pause. Another 20 pause. That's the way it actually works. And that's not my theory. That's looking back on the data of every single person over 20 years that has lost and kept off a significant amount of weight. It's not a well look, they just lost two pounds a week for, you know, X for 52 weeks. And then they were down 104 pounds. It never works that way. If you force it. Then what happens is your metabolism revolts. It powers down. You may lose a bunch of weight, quit eating. You're gonna lose a bunch of weight exercise, nine hours a day. You're going to lose a bunch of weight, but your body will revolt because it's going to actually damage your health damage, your metabolism. So the problem with, with taking pauses and doing it strategically, taking pauses, scheduling them in is it makes for terrible TV. That's not entertaining at all. Right. So that's where we have to look at. And that dovetails into now, our kind of our featured are the entree of what we do and its baseline testing to really identify where your metabolic rate is at, because that's going to enable us to say, okay, you have 40 pounds to lose. We're going to take 15 off right out of the gate. Then we're going to pause for a couple of weeks. Then we're going to go for the next and the next versus saying, Hey, you have 40 pounds to lose. We're going to get it all. And, and here's how we make that determination. We baseline test. So we'll put you on a meal plan that we've had many, many others of similar age, demographics, circumstance, body type, et cetera, similar to you. Athletic, active forties inactive maybe. Overweight, whatever the circumstance, fifties, wherever you fall, we have baseline tests that we have used for many, many others in a similar circumstance to you. We'll put you on this meal plan. We know the calories, the macronutrient ratios, the glycemic load the meal, timing, the breakdown, everything about these meal plans. And they're very simple. And we'll use meals that foods that you like, you, you can use whatever you have on hand. We'll just help you manage it in a way that we know. Exactly what you're getting for a short period of time, typically about 72 hours. And we're going to be able to collect enough data in 72 hours to not have the whole picture, but we'll have collected enough data to be able to start fine tuning and making some recommendations. So, in other words, while the you and another person, another guy, your age and your. Rough body type and size to go on the same meal plan and you may lose five pounds. He may gain two pounds. That's relevant data, and that's looking back on the data. So it's not anyone's opinion or theory. So you have a lot of experts gurus out there that says here, do this, and you'll lose weight here, do that. And you'll build muscle. And they may be right, but it's still theoretical until we actually see how your body responds to this. So we start the process with baseline testing. We see, we parse your metabolic rate to see how you're responding. And then based on that, we're going to come back to you and we might have good news. We might have bad news. And in 98% of the cases, we have news somewhere in between, but whether it's good or it's bad, it's accurate. And that's what net pro is all about identifying the accurate reality of where your metabolic rate is and using that to base our strategy for nutrition and then for exercise as well, to make sure that you're getting the best possible result that you

Wally Carmichael:

can. Absolutely brilliant. You know, when you're talking about that and you're talking about the one size fits all, I was in the army for 25 years. All the branches are slightly different when it comes to their physical fitness, for those who, you know, their standards. Right. But in the armies, for instance, that if you're overweight based on your height and your age, your gender you're considered overweight over a certain, you know, whatever they have the scale and then, okay. You're overweight based on the standards, but you have another option. You get to go get a tape test where they basically check your body mass index. And then if you don't pass your body mass index or, or you do, but you're still overweight. Then you got to go pass your PT test and so on and so forth. The thing that always aggravated me because I was a master fitness trainer as well, and even trained it that you take all 20 people in the unit who are overweight and can't pass their tape test. They're getting ready to get chaptered out of the military. And you put them all on the same fitness program. Then they mentioned absolutely nothing about meal plan. They say, stop stuffing pizza down your face now. And we've gotten better over the years, but only slightly better. Not to the level that you're at right now. And what you're talking about, that would absolutely cause it's devastating for somebody to lose their career because they they're let me put it this way. I have one female. She had big breasts and she could not pass the height and weight. She was always overweight and she had a hard time passing tape and she literally had to go get a breast reduction and she was a very good soldier. She was physically fit. She just couldn't pass it on height and weight test. And it was, it's so frustrating. And there's many other stories similar to that.

Angelo Poli:

The, the example you're using you know, it is, it's what I see across all industries across all walks of life. We are actually still using the old BMI and metrics. That even though our science and our understanding and our knowledge of metabolism, topic, body types, et cetera, has progressed. There's a lot of things that just haven't caught up yet. We actually work with w we actually coach a lot of doctors and one of the things that I hear, so this is. Of course just my experience and personal opinion on it. But one of the things that I hear from a lot of my doctors, like, yeah, we don't even look at that BMI anymore because it's not relevant to everyone. It's relevant to some people, but it's just not relevant to everyone. And here's the thing you can go to 10 different doctors and you can ask how do I lose weight right now in the fitness industry, in the medical industry. And yeah. You will get 10 different answers. There is no standard. And I have a theory why the reason why is because I have for 20 years been studying, researching, evaluating, implementing in the trends is trying, working with. Every single, single nutrition model and strategy out there. And you, if you go online and you type in weight loss, you will have literally a thousand more than a thought. You have a million different responses and opinions and gurus saying, do this, do that. And I have come to the conclusion. That every one of them is. Right. That's the problem. All of the strategies they work, there is no right and wrong. What there is is we need an evaluation system to parse your metabolism. Your body's responsiveness. Now of all the options out there, we can narrow the field down to what's going to work for you classic example, and these are broad strokes. There's always a discussion of calories or carbohydrates. So should I cut calories or should I cut my carbohydrates for people trying to lose weight again? I apologize. I don't mean to just talk about weight loss. We have tons of people that we're focusing on building and gaining weight. I had one gal that we focused on slowing her metabolism. She was going to be going on a reality TV thing where we, she wasn't going to have food. And I, you know, but I'm just speaking to that. Cause it's something that. A large percentage of the population can relate to. Yeah. What's better. Should I restrict my calories or should I restrict my carbohydrates? And the answer is whichever is going to be the most, most impactful lever for you. So it's like walking into a mechanics garage. You wouldn't say, you know, Hey, what's better the screwdriver or the wrench. Cause, cause my neighbor loves his screwdriver and it's working really good for him. But I've heard that the wrench is better tool. It's a stupid question. It's what, what, that's the best tool for the job. And so likewise, what's the best lever because there are so many strategies out there with calorie manipulation, carbohydrate, manipulation, ketogenic, vegan, vegetarian paleo you know, there's so many different strategies floating around out there. It's all about understanding them for what they actually are. They're tools. In a toolbox and you need to know which tool based on the job. Here's a hint. If you're already have been watching your caloric intake. Restricting further is unlikely to be a very significant tool. In other words, I'm already not eating very much. Well, I need to do more calorie restriction. It's probably not going to make that much of a difference if you're already on the lower end of Kal of calorie intake. Likewise with carbohydrates. Why does carbohydrate restriction work so good for some and almost do nothing for others? Well, it's because some people are already used to restricting carbohydrates. So marginally restricting further. Just doesn't make much of a difference. Whereas someone's, who's used to eating lots and lots and lots of carbohydrates. It's going to shock their system when they reduce them. So that gets back to that goal setting and specificity. A lot of people don't change enough in one area to really move the dial. And the problem is we, we change our strategy and opinion based off of, you know, whatever. Social media person is doing what and posts, what on their Instagram feed versus actually experts researching, not having an agenda of no use. I'm trying to sell you this, or I'm trying to sell you that, but rather their job is to evaluate all options. And then present whatever is best in your unique circumstance. And that's where we try and live. And that's what I'm passionate about. And you know what I love, I love proving myself wrong. I love learning and getting data that tells me that something we've been doing for years. There's a better way to do it. And we do that all the time. Every one of my coaches and everyone on my team knows that I love it when they come to me with proof and analyze data that shows that something we've been doing is. Wrong and can be done better. That's what we're all about in that pro that's what I'm passionate about and have and have been fortunate to have a lot of really intelligent people join, join in this path. And we reap the rewards of getting to be part of so many people's life changing experience. Just today. We had somebody show up, you know, down 85 pounds, how their life is different, you know, And, you know, I remember working with you know, some pro pro sports players. And I remember working with so many that, you know, just really fun stories and great times and hitting performance PRS, but the most emotionally gripping and the most memorable transformation, there are always those people who are just getting quality of life back. That's what it's about. And so we're passionate about all of it. Love all of it.

Wally Carmichael:

Yeah. When you can, when you can help somebody actually fit into in between and an airplane seat for the first time and, you know, 10, 15, 20 years that's a significant lifestyle change for sure. No doubt about it. So whether we are at the point where we're going to pay it forward, you're ready to do that. Yeah, absolutely. Excellent. Sure one, two, three actionable steps that men of abundance can take today.

Angelo Poli:

Okay. So time management is the trick. So if you can only do one thing tomorrow, here's what I want you to do. I want you to prepare in the morning before you leave the house, a simple afternoon snack and commit to me, look, I'm going to do this. And I heard Angelo tell me. One thing to do. Here's what I want you to do. I want you to repair an afternoon snack. It can be simple. Grab a piece of fruit and some almonds or just whatever you have on hand. That's clean whole food and simple. That is going to be the most disruptive single action you take. And here's why disruptive in a good way. It's going to take you 30 seconds to do, but it's going to have an impact on your entire day. So I'll walk you through that. So at breakfast, you're going to grab a snack, which means I know you're having breakfast because you're not going to go and grab food and grab a snack without at least grabbing a bite for breakfast. So two birds with one stone right there. At lunch, you're less likely to overeat and you're less likely to eat too late in the day because you know, you've committed to me that you're going to eat an afternoon snack. You're going to eat that afternoon snack because you've committed to me that you're going to do it. And you have no social pressures not to. In other words, you're not meeting your boss or your coworkers for an afternoon snack. If you're meeting them, you're meeting them for lunch or dinner. So there's nothing standing in the way of you having that afternoon snack. Once you have that afternoon snack, it's going to stabilize your blood sugar. And so you're more likely to make a good choice for dinner. And then when you get to dinner, you're going to be able to eat and not overeat because you're not starving, which means you're less likely to have junk food and sweets and desserts at night when a lot of people are most tempted. So with one simple action, that's literally going to take you 30 seconds in the morning. You disrupt. And have a cascade of positive effects on your day. So one thing afternoon, snack,

Wally Carmichael:

absolutely wonderful. And literally anybody can do that. Anybody can give so many reasons why, why wouldn't you? It just makes perfect sense. You know, we talked a lot about, you know, things to do, and that's the one thing, you know, kind of like a ritual or a habit, but what are the rituals that make up the biggest impact in your life?

Angelo Poli:

Having a priority hierarchy. So each day, and it's the same way we approach coaching people and helping people with a health or fitness objective. I have to look at my day and this applies to business. This applies to my personal life, my all areas. What are the things I have to accomplish today? And if you're like me, your list is bigger than could possibly be accomplished today. So what you have to do is. You have to rank them and move the things that are truly the priorities to the top. So you can focus on those. And that's how I start my day. What are the things that are going to have the most impact for me, for the people around me and for my overall objectives in life. And I try to focus on those first

Wally Carmichael:

wonderful. What are you reading or listening to that you would recommend to our abundant leaders and why?

Angelo Poli:

This the last few weeks I've been recommending the actually I've been recommending this book for a while now. Michael Dauphine has a new book called extraordinary, which is all about giving vocabulary to explain, communicate and utilize your strengths and how we're all made up different, have different strengths. And it's just exceptional. I've been thoroughly enjoying it.

Wally Carmichael:

I like that. What do you mean by strengths? Exactly.

Angelo Poli:

So, so we all have, we, we kinda if you've ever heard of the StrengthFinders tests, we all process information differently. Some of us are communicators. Some of us are strategies, some of us, you know, all of those terms that explain how we process information and what we're naturally better at. If you know what your strengths are, then you can find ways to use those strengths at whatever task you're. You're currently engaging in to better

Wally Carmichael:

effect? No, I asked that question because I'm real big on building on your strengths, not so much a weaknesses kind of delegating your weaknesses. That's worked for me for many years and that's what I like, but yeah, that's why it's very intriguing to me.

Angelo Poli:

There's a physiological precedence for that as well with athletes that train their strengths, they become exponentially better at the areas that they are already strong. But for athletes, they have to not have weaknesses. So you don't get to just pick and choose, but it is interesting to watch how physiologically we respond in those ways.

Wally Carmichael:

Yeah, absolutely. What do you feel holds most people back from living a life of true abundance?

Angelo Poli:

So the, the the fifth item on that list of five. Now, I'll be able to check that off the list. The psychology. And the accountability element of, of a personal transformation. So w w I'm certainly not a psychologist, but having worked with so many people for such a long period of time, I have kind of categories that I've found that self included. We all fall into some people thrive under a circumstance of mentorship and support other people thrive when they know the why behind it. And they want kind of an instructor and a teacher, and yet others really thrive. When circumstances in life are presented to them as a challenge. So my science remains the same for all clients, right? Here's what I want you to eat for lunch, lunch, the presentation change. You did it yesterday. I know you've prepared today. I am so proud of you. We're going to do it again. And today and tomorrow, and here's what you're going to have for lunch, or let me teach you why I've asked you to eat specifically this for lunch and then list exactly why or Hey, Johnny. This is what I ate for lunch. See if you can do better. Hm, it's the same assignment for everyone, but it's just recognizing how we each are wired to respond and find that accountability network in your life or with an expert that can help you really utilize that. Take it to the next level.

Wally Carmichael:

That is absolutely brilliant, man, because there's some folks out there. If you tell them what to do, they're going to do just the opposite in spite and destroy sabotage themselves, just in spite. It's just, some people are wired that way, man. So what does being a man of abundance mean to you? Angela?

Angelo Poli:

Learn what you can and share with others, try and help anyone you can around you. And you know, just keep priorities first in your life because in the crazy stressed out world, it's so easy to lose sight of big picture items.

Wally Carmichael:

Yeah, absolutely wonderful answer. I greatly appreciate that, man. We are definitely going to have met pro.co. Linked up in the show notes of all. I highly encourage all of you to go there and check that out. They have some amazing questions, zero self-assessments all this kind of cool stuff, but just go check it out so you can get more. But what did we not talk about that you want to ensure that our abundant leaders get out of our conversation and how can they get more of you? I

Angelo Poli:

think we have, can I share a link? Just that's unique to your audience. Absolutely. If you go to medpro.co it's dot co net pro.co forward slash then we'll we'll know that they came in from from your listeners and we'll set you up. There's no charge. You get to talk actually the one of our consultants. And it's fine. If you just want to talk and ask, Hey, what would, what would something, what would a transformation program or coaching look like for me? And let them get to know you a little, tell them about what you've done, where your struggles are, if you're hitting a plateau. And they'll get to actually be able to give you some real feedback on here's what, what we would probably be focusing on with you. So I'd invite any of your listeners, medpro.co/m O a M. Please take advantage of it. If, if you feel it's appropriate.

Wally Carmichael:

Yes guys, absolutely take advantage of that. I highly encourage it being in the, in this industry for some time, this is just next level stuff and the data's there and you, you all know, I am data driven. I'm not emotionally driven. I am data-driven. I get emotional sometimes too, but certainly during certain movies and whatnot and some hallmark commercials, but nonetheless. I love data and I love operating and making decisions when data is involved. And there's plenty of data here as we just discussed. Very in-depth. So, man, I'll tell you Angelo, great conversation. I was just soaking it all up. I absolutely love it, man. So go out, live your life of abundance. Keep paying it forward because you are in fact making a very big difference.

Angelo Poli:

Thanks so much, Wally.

Wally Carmichael:

All right guys. So your action step for today is as you called it around health, it's important for you to take inventory of your own personal health. I mean, no matter what lifestyle you want to live, your health is going to allow you to do that. And it's going to allow you to live a long fruitful life and enjoy the things in life that you want to enjoy. Now some would say it starts with the decision and it does, it does start with the decision, but you first have to have a strong why you have to know why it is that you want to get healthy. If you're not healthy or stay healthy, if you're already healthy, I'll tell you one thing. I've gotten fallen off the wagon, so to speak, if you will, on my fitness kick and I've gone down from being super fit. To being okay. And then I've even gone completely South and I'll tell you it's much harder to get started again and again, because it's happened multiple times based on things going on in my life. Just, just like anybody else, make excuses, get busy, whatever the case may be. I let it go South. And then I got to get started again. So if you're already going, don't stop. Keep moving. At least everyday do something every single day. And if you're so inclined, get a hold of Angelo and get a very specific program specifically designed for you. Now go out, live your life of abundance and guys make sure to pay it.

Narrator:

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Angelo Poli:

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